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Ah but when you buy an iPhone or a Mac, Apple sees it as their hardware graciously made available to you for a limited time and under ToS.


I think that’s the realm of conspiracy theories. There are also not only Chinese alternatives- Mistral in Europe is doing pretty good in several categories they’ve opted to focus on.

This kind of reiterates the parent’s question I think - people are maybe too focused on the gpt/claude model and forget about all the other ways of using the tech.


Is it? I thought it was pretty well established that open models were distilled from the proprietary, frontier ones. Maybe I'm wrong.

It's well established that the companies who own the proprietary frontier models complain loudly that open models are distilled from theirs.

There's surely some truth to it (and it's well deserved), but it's happening in every direction.


No, that is not well established at all, and generalizing all open models under that inaccurate umbrella doesn't really help anyone.

> just their usual marketing

I think that’s a very common element for most US tech corps. Apple, Google, Microsoft, Meta, X etc - they’re all “making a dent in the universe”. It’s unfortunate when their employees and CEOs loose track of the line that separates marketing from reality


This seems like copium. All of those companies have indeed made quite an impact on society, not just in the United States, worldwide.

The marketing is about a positive impact, overall in reality its been negative.

Google and MSN Search were already available at this time. Also websites used to publish webrings and there was IRC and forums to ask people about things.

It’s more of a concept of a plan for being distributed. I even went through the trouble of hosting my own PDC and still, I was unable to use the service during the outage

It’s Apple’s performative “security” (showing popups and asking the user for all sorts of permissions) overlapping with some pragmatic choices about how files and folders work. For me the gap is in Settings & Privacy - 1) it should be clear that the app has been given permission and 2) it should be harder to give permission once you’ve explicitly disabled it. 3) (nice to have) Apple should get rid of permissions that make you restart the app because it’s 2026 lol.

> dystopia

Coming soon to every AI enabled product near you


> Apple has continuously ignored requests

Apple being completely oblivious to what normal people actually need or want is like bad weather- can’t do anything about it (Apple is so big and unregulated), just try not to forget to take an umbrella.


They use a clean work Mac for just work.

It’s like having a dedicated space for a few apps and folders. No wonder they don’t care


I wouldn't mind donating if they separate it from Mozilla and move it to Europe.

https://www.tb.pro/en-US/thundermail/

  Hosted Securely in Germany 

  Your emails are protected by strict EU privacy laws and hosted on infrastructure you can trust. With servers located in Germany, Thundermail prioritizes your privacy while ensuring reliable, fast delivery worldwide.

I don't see how it's different from Amazon or Microsoft datacenters in the EU, which are not safe from the US government. As long as the US parent company can somehow get at the data, it is obligated to do so when a US agency asks for it.

Looks like it's still owned by Mozilla/MZLA and thus subject to US jurisdiction.

Someone should’ve thought about the UX of IPv6 before declaring it to be “the way”. It’s like having to learn Klingon just to setup your printer. IPvNext could sort that out… maybe it’s time to consider moving on.

People claim this all the time, but every time I push I discover they have no clue how networks work and just handwave away as "easy" or "details" the very reasons people who understand networks say it can't work.

> but every time I push I discover they have no clue how networks work

Obviously. Anyone who does understand how networks work aren't going to spend any time talking about it. People don't talk about things they are certain about. They talk about what they don't know much about to feel out what they're missing. You will never find a discussion where pushing back reveals that you found the world's utmost expert. The world's utmost expert is bored with the subject and has moved on to talking about the things he has gaps in.


I think you’re making my point - someone decided to surface a very low level concept “as is” (without a suitable abstraction) on a level where people also need it for use cases that don’t justify knowledge of the arcane. Or dealing with gatekeepers for that matter.

There are already abstractions that allows you to deal with IPv6 without actually typing in the addresses. It's the DNS, but every time this topic pops up, someone rejects DNS and proceeds to continue sprouting something about how IPv6 is unusable because you can't memorize the addresses.

What happens when DNS is down

What happens when DNS is down (IPv4 edition)?

You type in the IP that's extremely easy to remember as it's just 4 numbers seperated by periods

Without checking what is the ip for hackernews?

I'm not a system administrator for YCombinator, so I couldn't tell you, but I assure you I have the IPv4 IPs of all systems I maintain (personal and enterprise) memorized.

Not even by choice, mind you, but they naturally cement themselves in my mind over time as I work on systems because they're just that basic.

IPv6, on the other hand, I have literally one memorized (::1), likely because it's even shorter than a typical IPv4 address.


For most people there is no UX. Most US houses are IPv6 and use it without knowing anything about networking at all (most cable internet is IPv6, as the big cell networks).

The people who have to make networks work need to know how IPv6 works - but there is no getting around that - they know how IPv4 works too.


>every time I push I discover they have no clue how networks work

Listen here, if there is a networking technology or feature that I wasn't forced learn when I half-assed a SOHO router config in 2005, then it shouldn't exist at all.


SLAAC + mDNS makes IPv6 basically invisible.

If by invisible you mean "things randomly won't work and you'll smash your head in the wall trying to figure out why".

That's just computers in general, isn't it?

I learned the basics of IPv6 a few years ago, and forgot some of it... but NDP, the built in default addresses for router solicitation, address assignments and so on.

I'll tell you that if you just think of it on its own, it's really no harder than IPv4 + ARP + DHCP, just one or two extra things to remember.

The difficulty of adoption is the featureset and the UX of operating systems and home routers in particular. It is really difficult to find a consumer router, or even home networking OS, that exposes sensible working defaults for IPv6. The problem extends to the ISPs.

The spec is fine.


Like there was any chance to see UX of this to work or not in most of places. I've never had an ISP that even offered any IPv6 connectivity besides mobile internet.

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