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Another black man here, the facts of the matter are that DEI is needed, forget the research that has been done proving that for a moment and just look around. The world is getting smaller everyday and this idea that ONE group can satisfy the needs of the global population is just fool-hardy. The problem with DEI in the corporate setting is that corporate structures and governance simply can't solve cultural problems. What ends up happening is that you get a DEI board that's all white (that's how most DEI boards look), or that has token participants that have no cultural of corporate power to effect change. Even then, you'd still need to solve the cultural problem of racism, or discrimination as it relates to your organization all the way down to individual contributors? Who is doing all of this work? The same employees you hired to actually do the work of the organization. If DEI is going to work it has to be cultural from the start and the only way you get there is:

1. Find a utopia of people of all races and creeds living in harmony. 2. Externalizing an "OTHER" that's currently not apart of the equation. Aliens attacking Earth. 3. As a group, (black persons) outpace ALL of the other groups and subject them to the same behavior they've practiced. 4. Or lastly, treat everyone equally.

Those are the options, until then, the ruse of DEI will continue, is it helping? To date, no. Numbers are stagnant and have been for the last 30 years.


This is hilarious. Please add a link to what you implement through k8s secrets, i'd be highly interested in its creation.


I read this presentation a little while ago and I felt it was slightly disingenuous. Many of the "problems" are process related and have nothing to do with vault itself. Then your approach is using ParameterStore which provides a UI and is built on the AWS ecosystem proper which I guess works if you are sticking to only AWS. I guess it comes down to how you view "secrets" but i'd rather that be spelled out than suggesting hard to automate and not easy to work with.


Colored is in-fact very offensive and I wouldn't use it around a person of color.


Everyone's different, but as a black person, it doesn't offend me at all.


I hear this sort of thing often enough that I need to reply. In general Asians claim that race or discrimination isn't the issue. That most of the issue falls to education and work ethic unfortunately i've come across quite a few very racist Indians and Asian people to be sure. In-fact not only do they tend to be very racist and large in parcel hold onto stereotypical tropes but they are also very classist.

I say this as a black carribean man married to a chinese woman. It's truly a shame as some of the behavior I've seen meted out shouldn't be coming from these groups.


This is probably one of the most insightful threads i've read on hacker news in the entire year of 2015. Reasonable and positive discourse explaining racial disparity and discrimination. At the same time, expressing the poignancy of the topic without woe is me tripe. Job well done sir... Job well done.


I didn't want to reply to this after just reading it but because there are so few of us out here I almost feel as I have no choice. I'm of the mindset that these organizations, specifically VC organizations are lost to the future quite frankly. They are simply obsolete, some of the largest growing populations and users of technology are not white males and while black males (myself included) are a group that are neglected it's one of MANY different facets affecting black males as a group. I'm not sure what combination of answers will solve the problem but I'm sure it's a combination of rudimentary pushes towards equality. Which I summarily don't expect a VC organization is able to provide in any manner.


Wow, this benchmark is like comparing apples, oranges, mangos and cherries. Just because they are all fruit.


It's fine as long as people take it for what it is. I still find the fruit salad interesting :-)


"One possible reason I dreaded was that nobody had previously built something like CDE because it was impossible to get the details right to make it work e ffectively in practice. Maybe it was one of those ideas that looked good on paper but wasn't practically feasible"

No, there was autopackage, alien and any numerous other programs and battles/discussion long email threads that worked not just for python but for any language. Technically speaking as I see CDE, it is useful for python and standard installs in very select cases. For large research projects where the variables and runtimes will differ with no rhyme or reason other than "That's what we started with". It's probably a lot more of an issue to get running properly.

I'm sure there is no easy answer, it's really a human problem. What would really be highly useful is for standardization on a linux distro specifically for research but even then that would only be useful for at most an organization/institution/research lab. Getting researchers to stick to such a distro as a general rule is impossible without weapons.


Also, good read.


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