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>MS continues to do wrong, forced telemetry and upgrades, ads in the OS

These things might be unpreferable to you, but none of them are "wrong".



"forced telemetry" is very wrong.

Let's see how long it takes until that is illegal in your country.


There are some people that think if something isn't illegal, then it isn't wrong. It's really weird.


It's substantially more common a viewpoint on here, at least anecdotally compared to my real life experience.


Most people never get past Kohlberg Stage 4.


I had never heard of this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Kohlberg%27s_stages_o...

From the wiki page, there are three levels that include 6 stages (two each):

        Level 1 (Pre-Conventional)

            1. Obedience and punishment orientation

                    (How can I avoid punishment?)

            2. Self-interest orientation

                    (What's in it for me?)
                    (Paying for a benefit)

        Level 2 (Conventional)

            3. Interpersonal accord and conformity

                    (Social norms)
                    (The good boy/girl attitude)

            4. Authority and social-order maintaining orientation

                    (Law and order morality)

        Level 3 (Post-Conventional)

            5. Social contract orientation
            6. Universal ethical principles

                    (Principled conscience)


Something is only wrong from a business perspective if you lose customers (either from trust or legal means (probably in the EU))


Microsoft continue to produce proprietary software, i.e. software which infringes on its users' freedoms to use, examine, modify & share software; that is wrong.


Are you suggesting that those users have no choice but to use that software?


Most users have no idea they have a choice, so... effectively, yes.




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