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> It isn't feminist for women's bodies to be brutalized by men's bodies.

If you broach the topic in this way—jumping straight to an inflammatory statement on one of the most divisive of all topics—you're guaranteeing a flamewar. That's vandalism, nay, trolling. It breaks the site guidelines, damages this place badly, and you've done it more than once before. You also committed to us that you wouldn't to do it again. Would you please stick to that and not actually do it again?

Your comment would be fine, from a site guidelines point of view, without that last sentence.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html



I apologize. I thought that statement was inoffensive, but clearly I was wrong. I would edit it out if I could. Fortunately it seems not to have ignited the flamewar you anticipated, since none of the 36 replies other than your own have referenced it.

The main complaint seems to be that I didn't portray the full variety of statements that Rogan has made on this issue. I had listened to a recent podcast in which he claimed to make his definitive and comprehensive statement about this, but perhaps I shouldn't have taken his word for it.

I'll have to think about this more than I have.


They don't have to reference it in order to react to it or otherwise be affected.

I appreciate your reply though.


How is that even remotely inflammatory? It’s the truth.


Those two things are compatible. Why wouldn't they be? If you know some truth that others don't, you have more responsibility, not less, to express it in a way that isn't inflammatory. Otherwise you just end up discrediting the truth, because you give the people who don't know it an excellent reason to resist and reject what you're saying. (I don't mean you personally, of course. We all do it.) Previous comments on this: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que....

See also my reply in the current thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23243538.

Btw, if you read those links and still feel like there's some question that hasn't been addressed, I'd love to know what it is. I'm beginning to feel like years' worth of moderation comments (the ones I keep linking to with HN search URLS) are converging into a set of building blocks that can be articulated relatively clearly.


Did you also know that the government add hydroxyl acid (a chemical commonly found in cancer cells and many vaccines) in the water supplies of many cities? Sometimes it is even illegally used to accelerate vegetable growth for our own food.


Facts are inflammatory!


People frequently bring this up with a triumphant tone, as if they have the point that trumps all points and they can't wait to blow its horn, certain that all opposition will crumble before them. I'm not sure what's going on there, since there's no logic in this. Is it magic imputed to the word "facts"? Or an inability to think beyond one step? If it made sense, you could win any argument by shouting "1+1=2!" over and over. It's a fact!

Go one step beyond that magic word to see that nothing follows from this. There are infinitely many facts. They don't choose themselves. Humans do that, and they do that for complicated reasons that have nothing to do with "facts" being transparently pure and true. Previous comments on this: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....

Errors of logic aside, the GP comment was not "facts". The word "brutalize" is an interpretation, not a fact—and let's not get started on "feminism".


8 hour old account, with a one liner about "facts", and using the right wing "cuck" as a pejorative.




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