> If you get you case in childhood, as most do, then you have immunity through adulthood.

Sort of. I got shingles (early 40s) this year. Completely knocked on my ass for a week and maybe 2-3 months to be mostly back to normal. I recommend the shingles vaccine to anyone who will listen.

I just got the shingles vaccine this year (two shots about 3 months apart). That vaccine knocked me down from hour 6 to about hour 54 both times. Worse than any other vaccine experience, including Pfizer C19. Still recommend it, but schedule it wisely.

> That vaccine knocked me down from hour 6 to about hour 54 both times

Not sure I understand this. Can you elaborate?

Sorry. I had relatively strong reaction (weakness, soreness, slight fever, and overall malaise) starting about 6 hours after the shot and lasting for two full days.

Get the shots, but if you get them on a Friday, you might be writing off the weekend.

(Missed this earlier)

Ahhh, I had kept reading that as "hour 6" was a maximum starting point of some sort, and that you were going down to "hour 54" ?

It makes obvious sense now. Thanks. :)

You were back to normal. Why recommend vaccination?

so you don't get desperately ill for several days / weeks? why is this so hard for you types to understand?

First, it wasn't a couple of days.

Second, I couldn't read a book. I couldn't do anything but sleep (in pain) If you are into being completely knocked out for a week, well ... you'd love this! I have met someone else who got this in their twenties and had to be cared for by their brother for a month!

Third, I'm "close" to being back to normal. It's been four months. That sounds acceptable to you?

Finally, there are other complications. It may have led to an increase in ocular pressure increasing my odds of blindness in one eye. I have a scar from the bumps that formed on my forehead. In some cases it is a lifetime affliction that requires consistent medication with antivirals. In some cases it can cause organ damage.

Your type might want to think about these things.

Yeah, sounds fine to me. Immune system working as intended. I've been bedridden many times in my life, for weeks on occasion, still alive. Never been vaccinated. Every time society goes apeshit over "swine flu" this, "avian flu" that, I get a fever and sweat it out. I expect the pattern to repeat with "bat flu" now.

Salmonella was awful though.

If organ failure, blindness and not feeling 100% for months is you're thing, have at it.

The problem with "the immune system doing its thing" is that against some pathogens it doesn't do a thing at all.

I don't give a shit if you don't want to get vaccinated but you're obviously trying to downplay my very real, very painful and very avoidable issue to support your stance.

Yeah, sorry, I don't think being ill for a bit warrants such dramatic recount. You are absolutely fine. You suffered very little in the grand scheme of things. Stop ballooning it out of proportion. If this is the worst you'll endure, 90% of humanity would swap places with you in an instant.

Maybe you just think you're being cavalier, but honestly, you're just insulting. Worse, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

You don't know me. You don't know my condition, and have demonstrated a pretty tenuous grasp on human pathology in general.

Adios, hope you never get this.

Did you get shingles shortly after getting a vaccine?

Nope. The week before, in fact.

I know a lot of things can ding your immune system enough to allow zoster to make an opportunistic comeback. In my case i blame a lack sleep + stress from having an infant.

> If introduced in a new population

Ah true, I had not considered that unlike eurasians american populations would obviously not have had it as children.