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> collapse suddenly

If BYD was in the US I think we could check this box reeeeaaally quickly. It would make Tesla irrelevant.



We have BYD here, it's a stiff competitor for Tesla, but it's not end game for Tesla material.

I personally prefer a BYD, Musk has damaged his brand by being so political, but the BYD product is (IMO) superior.

Having said that BYD isnt without its issues (eg. over reporting of range)


> If BYD was in the US I think we could check this box reeeeaaally quickly. It would make Tesla irrelevant.

Why? What's your logic?


The cars are higher quality and, more importantly, cheaper. US manufacturers can't make a cheap car to save their lives. The average age of cars on US roads is now 13 years, nobody can afford new cars.

There's a huge market opportunity here that all our manufacturers are missing, seemingly on purpose. BYD, and others, would absolutely sweep the competition.


> US manufacturers can't make a cheap car to save their lives.

They have a fiduciary duty to their shareholders to never make low-margin (read "cheap") cars. If someone is looking for a competitive automotive market, they won't find it in the US. The financial engineering is world-class though.


High quality? I’ve ridden in several. It’s an all plastic deal with a flimsy feel. The ride is horrible and from the reviews I e read the handling is terrible.


Handling on basically all EVs except maybe what porsche is doing is terrible. And American cars are all plastic and flimsy, and this includes Tesla. But they're also much more expensive.


The Chinese EVs were particularly atrocious in their handling.

And sure some American cars are plastic and flimsy (particularly the low end models), but these are premium Chinese brands.


> The Chinese EVs were particularly atrocious in their handling.

I disagree, again, pretty much all EVs handle like shit because they're very heavy and have a ton of torque. It doesn't help that most American cars are very large and particularly tall, which makes handling even worse. The reality is that a sedan will basically always handle better than an SUV, no matter what, even if it's a piece of shit sedan and a 100K Cadillac SUV. At least, on pavement.

> And sure some American cars are plastic and flimsy

No, like, all of them. You can't buy a Tesla with an interior that isn't mostly plastic. GM is still doing that bullshit where most of their components are binned from 20K shitboxes. There's SOME exceptions, but they're rare. And you'll find that what Xiaomi and some other's are doing is not plastic. They have leather interiors and stuff, this is all very easy to verify online. I'm not telling you anything that isn't trivial to find out.


The only logic anyone really needs is the US's refusal to approve BYD cars for sale in the US because they would destroy US auto manufacturers. Past that the much cheaper price for the same or higher quality level of vehicle.

What does a 2025 US car have over a BYD vehicle? Questionable parts availability?


Quick Google tells me Automotive manufacturing is ~3%

You would have to be crazy to crash 3% of your economy.

On a related note, health insurance companies make up ~18%(this includes care, can't find that broken out).

Good luck getting nationalized health insurance, where are all those people going to work?


BYD makes good, cheap cars. There's a reason why the US raised every protectionist barrier against it - it would destroy Detroit.




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