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>If we don't demand moral just governments we will never get them.

OK, here's a clue: truly moral governance is only sustainable if all governments follow the same moral behaviors. Unfortunately, that's not a stable equilibrium, because the world is not Kantian -- thinking otherwise is naive.



The US used to be a leader, forming the United Nations, ratifying the Geneva Conventions, promoting human rights, etc. Nowadays we have squandered our moral leadership by refusing to sign things like the ban against land mines or the international criminal court; as well as by leading immoral wars and torturing prisoners. As a superpower we have the power to make the world better for everyone but the empire has turned selfish, short-sighted and evil instead.


Rose-colored glasses, maybe? How about slavery, segregation, the treatment of Native Americans, Japanese internment, McCarthyism, etc. Find a country with a history of unblemished human rights -- it doesn't exist. Anyway this thread is getting off topic, I'll stop here.




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